The Matrix (original trilogy and new 2021 movie)

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The Matrix (original trilogy and new 2021 movie)

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In preparation of the new Matrix movie I went and rewatched the first three Matrix movies (not sure if I am going to bother with Animatrix yet).

I still find the first movie to be a pretty decent movie, but the sequels are just as bad, if not worse, than I remember them being. What bothers me the most about it is that they take a solid idea of a movie with the first one, have a great blend of real world/matrix stuff and set up a really good overall world to build stories in. Then completely shit on that in the following two movies by setting them primarily in Zion where everyone is wearing really corny planet of the apes/star trek costumes. Then when they do go into the matrix they take all the innovation credits they had in the first movie with the bullet time effects and start making fully cgi fight scenes that are basically Plastic Man cartoons. And I get the inspirations... but how many times in the series are we going to do this?

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The heavy-handed christian themes have always annoyed me, but is so integral to the story they are telling. So, whatever. I always thought the pre-woke-but-trying-oh-so-hard-era world of Zion felt racially problematic in the 2 sequels and this re-watch confirmed a lot of that for me, especially looking at it through the eyes of now.

Some of the writing is so bad.

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They legitimately used a bowling pins sound effect when Neo throws a Smith into a bunch of Smiths. WTF?! Seriously, wtf.

I didn't notice until the second or third movie but everyone in the ships have color coded torn sweaters based on their job on the ship. Thats cute. :toot:

Despite all of this I am looking forward to the new one. It seems to be more focused in the same vein (maybe too much) of the first movie. I have a couple of concerns where I think it may be going based on the trailers, but we will see.
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Ugh, some one please move this as I realized I posted it in the wrong forum.
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Which language track did you listen to these in? That makes all the difference.
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They legitimately used a bowling pins sound effect when Neo throws a Smith into a bunch of Smiths. WTF?! Seriously, wtf.
Dammit. I've not watched this in a decade, and I will never not hear this now. :lol:
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Neon Maniac wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:58 pm Which language track did you listen to these in? That makes all the difference.
Original language as always* ** ^





*99.9% of the time.
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^ even Matrix 3 is better than Squid Game
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I honestly hope to never watch these movies again. The first one was cool. Then the others were terrible.
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What if I were to tell you that Agent Smith wasn't an agent of the alien/robot/badguys whatever they were; but he was a construct of the collective unconscious of all the human batteries who didn't want to wake up, who wanted to keep living the dream life because that was so much better than reality?

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It would be a better series.
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shiki-jitsu wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:50 pm It would be a better series.
That's my theory on what he is.
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Just saw this is going to stream same-day on HBO Max. Fucking a. I don't even have to leave the house to watch it.
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Only reason I will be seeing it any time soon lol
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Yeah, that's the only way I'll see it
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Oof.

Fucking terrible in so many ways.
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I thought it was a well made movie that had the most ridiculous writing and story ever.
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See I didn’t even think it was technically well made. There was a hyper-realism to it that just did not work IMO. I didn’t like most of the effects work, especially when dealing with the analyst scenes.

I thought it started with a decent idea overall but was poorly executed and written terribly. Did not like a lot of the choices made in casting and characters that lacked so much… character.
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